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  Date: Jan 09    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 276
  


I am trying to free myself and family from Windows.
The biggest catch is that my children use itunes on Windows heavily, to get them
to use Ubuntu will only be successful if I can offer a similar functionality for
their ipods.

Unfortunately, I have been unable to get either Rhythmbox or Banshee to take
playlists using Ubuntu 10.10. Both programs recognize the ipod, I can remove
music from it, but cannot add playlists from either Rhythmbox or Banshee.

Any thoughts?

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20 Answers Found

 
Answer #1    Answered On: Jan 09    


Why is there a need to free people from a universal system, sure if you
are an ardent free source user but there is surly no advantage other
than that.

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Jan 09    

However if determined to change the world there are ways to use IPod On
on Linux. Just Google it and you will find ways including Rhythembox

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Jan 09    


I did google it before I made this post. There was nothing addressing the
solution as to why I am unable to copy banshee/rhythm box playlists to my ipod.
I am not trying to change a universal system, I just prefer linux now and would
rather not have to be involved with 2 operating systems. Simple is the way to
go.

 
Answer #4    Answered On: Jan 09    


When I was looking into this issue I learned that rythmbox does not
support playlists. I don't know about banshee. Also, there does not
seem to be any way to add programs or games to ipod touch except through
itunes.

 
Answer #5    Answered On: Jan 09    

Glad I don't use IPODS. Aren't there any Linux friendly mp3 players out there
for the kids instead?

http://www.wikihow.com/Manage-an-iPod-in-Linux
www.junauza.com/.../...itunes-on-ubuntu-linux.html
www.brighthub.com/.../101346.aspx
linuxtree.blogspot.com/.../...ntine-in-ubuntu.html
www.webupd8.org/.../...ightweight-linux-music.html

I used Ipod Google Ubuntu Linux 10.10 and found the links above...

 
Answer #6    Answered On: Jan 09    

Well, my friend, have you tried virtualbox?
running windows in a "virtual box" is the way to go-
I use it a lot, works wonderfully.
and all my windows only apps get used in linux :)

 
Answer #7    Answered On: Jan 09    

Thank you for this Virtualbox idea.....I had never even heard of that, but I
really like the idea especially since you recommend it.
So, If I just want to try it, can I install it inside of a wubi install of xp
and ubuntu 10.10 or is that a little strange given that xp is already installed.
Also, is this virtualbox simple, I am not savvy with command lines and such...
is there a simple icon driven interface for virtual box?

 
Answer #8    Answered On: Jan 09    


Well, the good news first: yes, it has a gui,
or the "icon driven interface" as you put it.

Do you have a handy copy of xp,vista,or win7,
or whatever you have to use?

Do a Google search for "virtualbox"-google is your best friend :)

Installing a virtualbox on your set-up is probably possible,but,
I, personally wouldn't do it on a wubi install, because dual-booting is so
easy,and a clean install of linux with a vbox running windows,etc. is the way it
was intended (as far as I know)
For instance :I have Kubuntu 10.04 with XP on the virtual box.
Virtualbox site:
http://www.virtualbox.org/

 
Answer #9    Answered On: Jan 09    

Running Virtualbox in WUBI does not make sense because it will eat up your
space which is fixed. Virtualbox itself is not the worry. It is the Windows
XP vdi that will be large enough to hold a full Windows XP distribution.
Even if you set aside 20 GBs for Ubuntu's image in WUBI you could lose half
of that for XP's image file in VB. As the Ubuntu space diminishes
performance drops off significantly.

There are two possibilities for Virtualbox that do make sense. One would be
to set up Virtualbox in Windows and run Ubuntu in the VM. The other would be
to get rid of WUBI and set up a partition for Ubuntu. Install Ubuntu as a
dual boot operating system. You could then install Virtualbox in Ubuntu and
run Windows in a VM. Remember that you will need a Windows license to do
this legally. The first option has no such restriction.

Virtualbox is easy to set up in either Windows or Linux. It installs like
any other application. If you plan on using usb devices in Virtualbox, do
not instlal the OSE version in the repositories. Get the PUEL one from
Virtualbox website. It supports usb and is still free as in cost, but the
license is restricted. The only hitch in installing VB in Ubuntu is that you
have to edit the users file to make yourself a member of the vboxusers
group. This is done from the GUI as is everything else.

 
Answer #10    Answered On: Jan 09    

I really appreciate you thought pattern and patience in explaining things to
me. Thank you.
Is installing virtualbox similar to the way wine works to run windows systems in
Ubuntu?

 
Answer #11    Answered On: Jan 09    
 
Answer #12    Answered On: Jan 09    

Wine and Virtual Box are totally different in the way they run Windows
programs.

Wine attempts to run them natively in Linux and whereas some programs
work fine ( I'm currently typing this in The Bat 1.62R which is an old
e-mail client but works perfectly under Wine ) others don't run as
well as they should, or install but don't run, or even do not install
at all.

Virtual Box allows a full Windows OS to run within Linux as if it were
just another program so anything installed is run in a proper Windows
environment and much more likely to work without any glitches. Again,
not all programs will work 100%, though it's generally games that have
problems because they do not have direct low-level access to the
hardware. Only a full dual-boot system will allow Windows and Linux to
co-exist without imposing any restrictions. Having said that, apart
from the games most Windows programs will run perfectly well in a
Windows VM. Useful if there's some program that you really do need to
use that doesn't have an equivalent in Linux and gets over the issues
of dual-booting ( BTW - Wubi is still a dual boot setup ).

Note that a Windows OS run in Virtual Box and used on-line is just as
vulnerable to malware as if being run natively so the same sorts of
protection should be used as any other Windows user !!

 
Answer #13    Answered On: Jan 09    

it may be just my strange ways or because I need to use all
platforms to teach on but I avoid the pitfalls of trying to get Windows
programs working in Ubuntu by keeping Ubuntu pure and duel booting.

While I have tested both wubi and Virtual Box I do not find them as easy
and efficient as the duel boot partition or seperate slave drive.

 
Answer #14    Answered On: Jan 09    

"Horses for Courses" That's the great thing about computers and
the most confusing for a lot of users - there are many ways of doing
the same thing and what works for one doesn't work for another. I've
found WinXP in Virtual Box to work perfectly for the few programs that
still need Windows but the bulk of stuff is done in Ubuntu. It's
mainly Pagemaker for the village magazine that I need WinXP for, and
that's only 11 times a year so no big problem doing it that way. Less
hassle than porting over to Scribus when the job is already set up for
Pagemaker and works fine for that task.

You find dual booting to be more effective for the way you use the PC
and that's perfectly OK - we both do it differently and neither of us
is 'wrong' in what we do

 
Answer #15    Answered On: Jan 09    

I find VBox much more efficient and convenient. This way you can run both OSes
w/o having to shutdown & re-boot to cross over. VBox even has a way to share
folders and clipboard...

 
Answer #16    Answered On: Jan 09    

I have three computers using one Monitor, keyboard and mouse running
through a KVM switch so I can just press one button to open Windows 7,
Windows XP or Ubuntu.

I use Skype on the Win 7 because my Microphone /Web Cam are plugged into
that. I aso build web sites and find Windows easier for that task.

 
Answer #17    Answered On: Jan 09    

Think of Windows in Virtualbox as being a computer within a computer. When
you install Virtualbox it allows you to run a full version of Windows inside
of the host operating system (Ubuntu or whatever). When you start the
installed Windows virtual machine, it boots up just like Windows, but it
appears in a window on your Linux desktop. As far as Windows knows it thinks
that it is being run on a drive, but it is really just running as an
application. Inside that Windows window on your desktop, you can do
everything that you can do in Windows. The key is that you need to have a
fast chip and lots of RAM. My Windows XP VM has 128 MBs of video RAM and it
is using 1 GB of memory. So it runs as fast as a computer having those
specs. You can allocate video RAm and memory that is good for whatever
hardware you have.

You can cut and paste and share folders between Windows and Linux, once you
install the guest additions. The internet connection, mouse, keyboard, sound
and CD ROMs are all shared. ISOs can be mounted as CD drives so it is easy
to install from an ISO or it can install from a CD. The down side is that
you need a Windows license not being used by another computer, but I have
thrown away dozens of Windows XP CDs and licenses over the years, so these
are not hard to come by.

 
Answer #18    Answered On: Jan 09    
 
Answer #19    Answered On: Jan 09    

Apple does its level best to make iTunes the only way to put things onto its
mobile products. There may be open source software that will get around
this, I just don't know. There are two other possibilities however: wine and
VirtualBox. iTunes may run under wine but it will run for sure in a virtual
machine. Give it a try and let us know.

 
Answer #20    Answered On: Jan 09    

I just heard of another. The guy who pushed me for years to dump Windows and go
to Ubuntu told me there's some obscure Linux distro called Super 10 that has
workarounds for Windows-only programs like iTunes. He couldn't give me any more
info; he hit hard times and had to sell all his computers so he can't pull it up
to get the details.

 
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